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The Canucks record in the Mike Gillis era, by the numbers

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For readers of this blog, it’s no secret that I’m a Mike Gillis supporter. I generally think he has been good for the Vancouver Canucks and think he has unfairly gotten a lot of bad publicity for various reasons.

I made my case for the argument that he “inherited” this team and outlined his biggest contribution to his team, his contract negotiations. Most recently, I outlined the smart moves he made prior to this season.

I’m not a fan of every move Mike Gillis has made, he has made mistakes. I don’t like the Cody Hodgson or David Booth trades (though I liked the Booth trade at the time) and I hate the Keith Ballard trade (I didn’t like the Hodgson and Ballard trades at the time either). I loved almost every one of his contracts that he negotiated (even the Luongo one, if under the old CBA). I also like a lot of the depth moves he has made.

Whatever you think of the job Gillis has done, you can’t argue about the team’s success on the ice. Really, that is the point of this article. Perhaps you think Gillis is the beneficiary of good fortune, Dave Nonis/Brian Burke moves prior to his arrival or an easy division in the last three seasons. You can argue that. I mean, you’d be wrong (in my opinion), but you can argue it.

I like a lot of the moves that Mike Gillis has made. Bringing in Ehrhoff, Samuelsson, Hamhuis, Malhotra, Torres, Higgins and Lapierre were vital to the success of the 2010-11 team.

What you absolutely cannot argue is that the team on the ice hasn’t been excellent during the Mike Gillis era.

Lets look at the numbers. Below is a list of the point totals for every team since Mike Gillis joined the Canucks before the 2008-09 season. The 2012-13 season is prorated for an 82 game season. The list is sorted by average point totals:

TEAM
2008-09
2009-10
2010-11
2011-12
2012-13
AVERAGE
CHI 104 112 97 101 131.54 109.11
PIT 99 101 106 108 123.00 107.40
VAN 100 103 117 111 100.79 106.36
SJ 117 113 105 96 97.38 105.68
WAS 108 121 107 92 97.38 105.08
BOS 116 91 103 102 105.92 103.58
DET 112 102 104 102 95.67 103.13
STL 92 90 87 109 102.50 96.10
PHI 99 88 106 103 83.71 95.94
NYR 95 87 93 109 95.67 95.93
NJ 106 103 81 102 82.00 94.80
LA 79 101 98 95 100.79 94.76
ANA 91 89 99 80 112.75 94.35
PHO 79 107 99 97 87.13 93.83
MON 93 88 96 78 107.63 92.53
NAS 88 100 99 104 70.04 92.21
BUF 91 100 96 89 82.00 91.60
CAL 98 90 94 90 71.75 88.75
OTT 83 94 74 92 95.67 87.73
DAL 83 88 95 89 82.00 87.40
MIN 89 84 86 81 93.96 86.79
CAR 97 80 91 82 71.75 84.35
TOR 81 74 85 80 97.38 83.48
CLB 92 79 81 65 93.96 82.19
ATL/WIN 76 83 80 84 87.13 82.03
TB 66 80 103 84 68.33 80.27
FLA 93 77 72 94 61.50 79.50
COL 69 95 68 88 66.63 77.33
NYI 61 79 73 79 93.96 77.19
EDM 85 62 62 74 76.88 71.98

As you can see, the Canucks rank behind only Chicago and Pittsburgh in average point totals over the past five seasons. They’re also the only team, along with Detroit, to get at least 100 points in each of the last five seasons.

Their 117 point regular season in 2010-11 was the second highest single season point total (not counting the prorated point totals in the 2012-13 season).

People seem to want to blame Mike Gillis for the fact the Canucks’ point totals have slipped in each of the last two seasons (even though one of those seasons was still a Presidents’ Trophy season), but that isn’t fair. To do so would be penalizing Gillis for his success. Using that same logic you would fire the general managers from Chicago (97 and 101 points after their 112 point season), San Jose (declining point totals every year since 2008-09) and Washington (haven’t repeated their 121 point season).

Gillis detractors are probably saying “yeah, but what have they done in the playoffs?”. I’m glad you asked! Here is a list of playoff series victories:

TEAM
2008-09
2009-10
2010-11
2011-12
2012-13
TOTAL
CHI 2 4 0 0 4 10
BOS 1 1 4 0 3 9
PIT 4 1 0 0 3 8
DET 3 1 1 0 1 6
LA 0 0 0 4 2 6
VAN 1 1 3 0 0 5
SJ 0 2 2 0 1 5
PHI 0 3 1 1 0 5
WAS 1 0 1 1 0 3
NYR 0 0 0 2 1 3
NJ 0 0 0 3 0 3
PHO 0 0 0 2 0 2
MON 0 2 0 0 0 2
NAS 0 0 1 1 0 2
CAR 2 0 0 0 0 2
TB 0 0 2 0 0 2
STL 0 0 0 1 0 1
ANA 1 0 0 0 0 1
OTT 0 0 0 0 1 1
BUF 0 0 0 0 0 0
CAL 0 0 0 0 0 0
DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0
MIN 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOR 0 0 0 0 0 0
CLB 0 0 0 0 0 0
ATL/WIN 0 0 0 0 0 0
FLA 0 0 0 0 0 0
COL 0 0 0 0 0 0
NYI 0 0 0 0 0 0
EDM 0 0 0 0 0 0

The Canucks haven’t won a Stanley Cup, but they more than hold their own in this list. They’re the sixth most successful playoff team in the NHL.

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8 Response to The Canucks record in the Mike Gillis era, by the numbers

  1. Betty Henderson on November 11, 2013

    Thank you for this . I too am a Mike Gillis Fan. Booing him was SO outrageous.

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  2. Vindictive Richard Loney on November 12, 2013

    Rob the hockey guy brings us back to reality again.

    Reply
  3. Fred65 on November 12, 2013

    You've raised some good points backed up with stats. Thanks. I'm more of a "some days I like him some days I think he's lost it" The boners he's made are really brought up because they were major boners. Trading away a 1st round pick plus a prominent prospect for Ballard is not just a trade it was a major boner. Booth…the length of that contract has been a major boner. Both have held back Vcr from much better success.

    But his minor pieces have worked out better, but remember the Santorelli pick up…even they didn't expect great thing…he signed a 2-way contract… hand this success to Santorelli himself, Richards is not a game changer and Higgins looks good some times other times it's maybe.

    The point is you can't argue with the success he's had and the kudos he deserves, but don't skim over the bad moves because they to have defined a moment in Vcr history when we should have done better, lots of teams come close

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    • RobTheHockeyGuy on November 12, 2013

      Fred, if you're going to qualify a good move he made (Santorelli), then I think you have to be fair and qualify the bad move he made with Grabner. Nobody thought Grabner was going to be this good when they traded him. That's evidenced by the fact that Florida put him on waivers in training camp.

      I feel like we should give him credit when he does something good (Santorelli) and blame when it goes bad (Grabner). Who are we to say he got lucky here or unlucky there. It gets real complicated when we get into that discussion. The only exception would be with Malhotra and his freak injury. I think we all chalk that up as a good move, but got unlucky with the freak eye injury.

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  4. Matt on November 12, 2013

    Every team above Vancouver on the playoff series win list has won a stanley cup in that time frame, and no one below them has.

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    • Michael on November 13, 2013

      Yeah we're like the 90s Phil Mickelson of hockey: best team without a cup. Hopefully our career goes a similar way

      Reply
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  6. ValBurs on March 5, 2014

    Beneficiaries of a weak North West division where in the past five years, no other team besides the Canucks has even won a play-off series. And some have not even made the playoffs. Way to go.

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